Bartleby the Scrivener (vegan27) wrote in quran_thugs,
Bartleby the Scrivener

Sura No. 3 - The Family of Imran

"We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve..."


Yahweh, Jesus, and Allah
He [Allah] has revealed to thee the Book [Qur'an] with truth, verifying that which is before it, and He revealed the Torah and the Gospel aforetime, a guidance for the people, and He sent the Discrimination. (3-4)

Muhammad is claiming that Allah is the same God of the Old and New Testaments of the Bible, and that he revealed those scriptures. This doesn't make sense. There are inconsistencies between the Old and New Testaments, but the writers of the gospels and epistles were intimately familiar with the Hebrew Bible. They very creatively quoted many Old Testament prophecies in order to support the claim that Jesus was the Messiah. I don't completely buy it, but Muhammad doesn't even try. The gap between the Torah and Gospel is nothing compared to the canyon between the Bible and the Qur'an. There just isn't any scriptural or archaeological evidence to support the idea that the "original" Torah and gospels corroborated the Qur'an's versions of the same stories.
He it is Who has revealed the Book to thee; some of its verses are decisive--they are the basis of the Book--and others are allegorical. Then those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead, and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. And none knows its interpretation save Allah, and those firmly rooted in knowledge. They say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord. And none mind except men of understanding. (7)

Some of the verses in the Qur'an are non-literal, but merely allegorical--and Allah is the ONLY one who knows the meaning of the allegorical ones. Then why did he give them to us? And how do we know which are which? I sure hope these verses are allegorical:
Those who disbelieve...will be fuel for fire...

...And Allah is Severe in requiting (evil).

Say to those who disbelieve: You shall be vanquished, and driven together to hell; and evil is the resting-place.

Should Muslims be friends with the infidels?
Let not the believers take the disbelievers for friends rather than believers. And whoever does this has no connection with Allah--except that you guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully. And Allah cautions you against His retribution. And to Allah is the eventual coming. (28)

Does Allah love all human beings, or just those who love him first?
Say: If you love Allah, follow me: Allah will love you, and grant you protection from your sins. And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Say: Obey Allah and the Messenger; but if they turn back, Allah surely loves not the disbelievers.

Jesus and Abraham

From verse 35 to 59, some parts of the Muslim version of the Jesus story are retold. Jesus was just another prophet sent to get people to believe in Allah. He was created by Allah just as Adam was. According to the Qur'an Jesus was never even crucified.

Muhammad asks the Jews, "Why do you dispute about Abraham, when the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till after him?" (65) Heh. Good point. So, what is the truth about Abraham? "Abraham was not a Jew nor a Christian, but he was (an) upright (man), a Muslim..." (67)


You shouldn't believe a person if they aren't of the same religion you are: "And believe not but in him who follows your religion." (73) Some Muslims say that Jews and Christians may go to Heaven, but that isn't the case: "And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers." (85) LOSERS!! Also, if you become a Muslim and then later dis-believe Islam, you will NOT be forgiven (88).

Should a Muslim have non-Muslims friends?
O you who believe, take not for intimate friends others than your own people: they spare no pains to cause you loss. They love that which distresses you. Vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and that which their hearts conceal is greater still. (118)

Verse 123 says that Allah helped the Muslims at the Battle of Badr. This was when Muhammad and his men led a bloody, unprovoked attack on a merchants' caravan because they were Meccans. It was not his first or last caravan raid. Muhammad was basically a pirate. "Defensive warfare" my ass!

At least Allah forgives "those who restrain (their) anger and pardon men" (134). Okay, Muhammad, I forgive you.

The Battle of Urdu is also mentioned. The Muslims lost this one, and some verses in this sura try to rationalize how the army with Allah on its side was defeated.

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Let me close with two quotations that I liked:

It is the devil who only frightens his friends ... [F]ear Me, if you are believers. (175)

And the life of this world is nothing but a provision of vanities. (185)
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